I find that very few jazz players today really keep in touch with the tradition, going all the way back to Louis Armstrong. Most Dumble ODSs were made using EL34 output valves, but there are variations, for example Larry Carlton owns one that runs on 6V6s for a lower output, intended for smaller venues. The Hermida Audio Zendrive immediately appealed to me. Hermida didn't build the first ZenDrive for him until 2003 (. You probably got that by now. May 6, 2015 Wisdom from a master guitarist. Looks like someone finally added information to the Wiki page, last time I viewed it there was almost no information. It was certainly thrilling to work with Miles Davis and it was always interesting to be around the guy. BA1 1UA. I've been thinking about the texas specials or the custom shop 69's. This assumption would require one amp to be taken as the primary reference, but Howard Alexander Dumble never built two amps to be the same. As for what else is on his 'board? "The Brother" where he uses his Fender Signature guitar and "Start It Up" where you can really here his Tele tone come through. My favourite pedal for single coils (which also sounds fantastic with humbuckers) is the Barber Direct Drive SS - it does remind me of Joe's tone to some extent - almost a Dumble/Marshall hybrid. Good price, good customer service, they even gave me a ive got nothing at all against plastic cabs This approach also extends to Fords studio gear. Sometimes Ford tricks himself into being creative. There was a problem. It was less about 50% of MSRP. He later acquired a second unit that was almost a replica of the first one. Maybe I'm doing something wrong can you guys suggest some settings for my Zendrive that would work well with a Strat w/ TS pups or a Strat w/ CS69's into a Vibroverb. Here's what he had; and then a question for all you Robben-philes: I had a similar seat when he was here in CT last year - it was awesome to see him that close and really watch what he does. Watching Robben Ford take the stage is equal parts gratifying, awe-inspiring, and challenginga perfect storm of creativity and emotion that results in some seriously good music. Dave Cobb talks about his Dumble-modified original Fender Deluxe Amp from the 60s as his desert island amplifier in yet another Premier Guitar Rig-Rundown. My best advice if you are after the SRV tone would be to put the level all the way up, the tone up . Even if I prefer a Super Reverb, whatever Twin shows up might just be a better-sounding amp. JavaScript is disabled. It looks like Joe Bonamassa was the previous owner of this Dumble, so you might have to pay extra for that, but anyway heres the link: https://www.denmarkstreetonline.co.uk/product-details/dumble-overdrive-special-combo. Please consider donating to GuitarZone.com.With more and more people using ad blocking add-ons for browsers, ad revenue has plummeted. I never quite got it. However, I did finally find a tone that I like very much, which is really stellar (to my ears anyway) with my Strat in the second pickup selector position (neck + middle). When I cant bring along my Dumble, I dont really have a favorite amp exactly, because amplifiers can vary in what kind of condition theyre in. When I would go record an album, I would use basic rhythm charts with an occasional bass line. Beyond that, I dont really have a practice regiment. Or why not treat yourself? All of the solos on the record, save one, were done with a 64 [Gibson] SG and a Fender Vibrolux Reverb reissue with the white knobs. I wouldnt say that they are the best amps overall, but it wouldnt be crazy to say thats the case when youre looking for a specific sound related to one particular genre. The FET circuit is intended for guitars with piezo pickups and produces a very clean sound, while the normal input is closer to a traditional Fender-style first gain stage. I agree with you the ZD pairs well with a Fender Blackface and not so well elsewhere. a lot of amps! https://www.denmarkstreetonline.co.uk/product-details/dumble-overdrive-special-combo. Just look at the description of the re-finished Johnny Smith for a paltry $6000. Demos Gladio SC - Official Demo Watch on He also tells a story about playing a gig with guitar legend Larry Carlton: they were both playing through their Overdrive Special amplifiers, each voiced specifically by Dumble for the two different players, and when they tried switching amps for fun, it ended up sounding weird for both of them. Anyway, I found one Overdrive Special for sale in London (UK). England and Wales company registration number 2008885. You are using an out of date browser. Very cool. To warm up his fingers, Ford sticks to the basics. J.Rockett's The Dude is designed to capture the tone of the Dumble Overdrive Special amplifier. John Bohlinger Plays The Beatles on a Lava ME3, Free Pedal Giveaway: Electro-Harmonix Mod 11, Building a Pro-Level Home-Studio Mic Closet, Joe Bonamassa Announces Additional 2023 Tour Dates, Mastering Positions are the Root of Mastering Electric Bass. I got closest with my Strat (Suhr V60LP pickups) and the tone knobs turned to 7/10. Builder Profile: Hermida Audio Technology. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). These fantastic pieces of gear are unbelievably rare, and even if youre lucky enough to find one for sale, you should be prepared to sell your house if you want to buy it. Still, Ive played through a few clones, and, when you look around and see that lots of contemporary Blues players are playing Two Rock amps (or similar brands), thats enough for me to say that an Overdrive Special is probably the dream amp for almost every Modern Blues player. You get to hear all the notes, the full spectrum of the signal.. He is also a recording and performing musician, and a former editor of Guitar World magazine and executive editor of Guitar Aficionado magazine. Most Dumbles are based on Fender circuits and Fender-type amp models are generally closest to the Dumble sounds, which are typified as very open, almost hi-fi cleans with a violin-ish smooth overdrive distortion. And now a fine example of Robben Ford's more recent Telecaster tone going through very little effects: Finally, Guthrie Govan explains why it's so hard to sound like Robben Ford, classic: Share Reply Quote 15th February 2011 | Show parent # 5 CrownBox Gear Nut I was in the first row, but on the other side of the stage. Robben Ford plays both Dumble amps and uses the Zendrive (when he doesn't want to carry his Dumble around on tour). If its a mellow tune, I take an aggressive left turn to something harder. I was at the Austin show, too! I know Kenny Wayne Shepherd did this when he had the Zendrive on his board. Dumble started modifying amps back in 1963, and before too long, was building some of the most sought after amps for some of the most well-known guitar players. But for this guitarist, artistic evolution is a burning issue, and his approach to his musical growth explains many things. ;-). Regardless, it was a great show. I personally don't feel it captures the Dumble tone or feel anymore than you might reasonably expect a small solid state pedal to (but I feel the same about Plexi pedals, etc). Its never going to be like the real thing, but the real thing costs $100k, so. Crossrock Fiberglass "Archtop" Case Review, Nu Korg/Vox aimed at hollow bodies - Clubman 60. Or is it the perceived value and overall impact on the general public? On top of that, after his work started to get noticed, Alexander Dumble decided to cover the preamp circuit of his amps with a thick layer of opaque epoxy, probably to prevent competitors from stealing his very much appreciated designs, so theres even more of a mystery around the components used inside Dumble amps. Please login or register. Get the IPS Communities App for iPhone now. Generally, you can divide guitar amps into two different categories: American amps and their British counterparts (so basically Fender versus Marshall), and the difference lies entirely in the way that the mid frequencies are handled. It might also be interesting for you to know that theres an entirely different category of products that aim to recreate the Dumble Sound: there are many pedals that people like to refer to as Dumble in a Box, but thats a subject for a different article. Its really a wonderful experience to play with a musical hero. His latest album, Into the Sun, is a guest-filled affair with cameos by Warren Haynes, Sonny Landreth, and pop/rock chanteuse ZZ Ward. Sorry to go off topic but I'm putting together another strat. What I have found with my Zendrive that it is finicky but when dialed in correctly it puts you in Dumble Nirvana. Unfortunately if that's the case, the Zendrive was designed to sound more like the Dumble Overdrive Special ala Robben Ford/Larry Carlton instead of the Dumble Steel String Singer that Stevie used. But, it does it in a more useful and pleasing way than the others, even the Wampler Euphoria, which is the most expensive pedal I've ever had. 1. 1. I owned a Zen Drive for a while and recently sold it. There are significant differences among the 12 different versions of this model. At about the 5:10 mark, Bryan switches from a Silver Sky to a McCarty and starts getting a humbucker through a Marshall or Dumble tone out of it. All rights reserved. The mini switches and control pots are also being wired. I stopped in there last week, and was also pretty disappointed. On top of his 2x12" cabinet stands his Vox grill ODS. What are you waiting for. ^it's not overly sensitive. Build an all-tube standalone reverb unit. Let's face it, Robben Ford has one of the greatest and iconic tones in modern guitar playing. I used a lot of different guitars and amps and was never really comfortable. I was focused on his great playing, so the fact that it wasn't the best tone I ever heard kind of got forgotten along the way. Fuchs makes the ODS and the ODS II, which are two different takes (revisited by Andy Fuchs) on the Overdrive Special, so the starting point is a Dumble, but theyre not exact replicas. I knew SRV used one, never knew Robben Ford did until today. If I were stuck on a desert island, I would have to have my original Dumble Overdrive Special. QUOTE (improviduto @ Aug 7 2009, 01:38 PM). Finally, our Rocked & Rated section is the place to go for reviews, round-ups and help setting up your guitars and gear. 3:15. Robben Ford 55,075 Followers 10 Upcoming Shows No upcoming shows in your city Send a request to Robben Ford to play in your city Request a Show Events Upcoming Past All Events & Live Streams Mar 17 - Mar 19 Larvik Guitar Festival 2023 Larvik, Norway Tickets APR 14 Tokyo Blue Note Minato, Japan Tickets APR 14 Tokyo Blue Note Minato, Japan Tickets My info came from another working pro and Ford fan, who told me about this in mid 2000's. I had the newer Chinese version and actually really liked it. ive got and use a few Their unloaded (cabinet with no speakers) 2x12" cabinet is still around the $450 U.S Dollar price range. I make sure to just play the instrument, and that seems to work for me., 5. Effects The unique characteristics that make up the so-called Dumble Sound could be derived from the traditional American sound of Fender amp line from the 60s. The Gladio SC is available at several quality retailers and of course direct from the Cornerstone Music Gear Webtore, priced at 279. The Mayer Screamer meets the Robben Dumble. The jazz and blues great walks us through his array of Strymon, Fulltone, Electro-Harmonix effects and more. On top of resembling the sound and circuitry of a Dumble as much as possible, it also matches the aesthetics of the original. Yes, you were sitting next to me (you were wearing the Two Rock shirt, right?). After 3 to 5 years of exclusive and obsessive work, the amp was done. --Rob, If you dont know about Dumble amplifiers then. Thats no good. I brought my Dumble and, naturally, expected it to work, but for some reason it just didnt sound right no matter what we did. 1969 Hagstrom Jimmy DAquisto design. Also check out the Fulltone OCD, Fuchs Plush Drive/Creme OD, Carl Martin Hot Drive and Boost, BK Butler Tube Driver, or any high quality medium/high gain overdrive unit. If this is in the ballpark of what you are going for, let me know and I'll see if I saved my settings. Robben Ford says that hes been getting a lot of questions about his pedalboard lately, and so the electric guitar great decided to do something about it, putting together a video tour of his impressive range of effects (the 52 Gold Top in his hands isnt too shabby, either). Robben Ford reportedly said that Dumble had the idea for the Overdrive Special amp (probably his most iconic model) after hearing him play live in the early 70s, at a gig in Santa Cruz, where he was using a Fender Bassman from the 60s with an Ibanez Tube Screamer overdrive pedal running in the front end of the amp. With five Grammy nominations, a three-decade-long solo . For years people have said that a Dumble sounds a lot like a Fender + tubescreamer anyways. He has authored several additional books, among them Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck, the companion to the documentary of the same name. more Am. The internal EQ on a SSS is considered to be quite subtle, leaving the job almost entirely to the front panel controls, which can provide both more high and low frequencies than your typical guitar amplifiers, once again underlining the Hi-Fi qualities of all Dumble amps. He couldn't have been using a ZenDrive in the late 80s. He's playing one of those guitars in the album cover photo. Lindley wanted Harper to have the best possible experience to understand which of the two amps would be the best fit for him, and in the end, he gravitated towards #8, which he now cherishes and uses both live and in the studio. We dont know much about Dumble amps, its a highly obscure subject due to the small number of amplifiers ever built and Alexander Dumbles very mysterious nature and personality, yet everything about this is fascinating to the guitar community. F#. Chords can really open up the whole picture, and playing songs will help you learn ways to use those chords effectively in your writing., 9. Good luck on the build, hope it turns out great. He used the two amps on every album he has ever recorded since then, gifting the world with some of the most beautiful guitar tones ever heard. Guitar Amplifier Stacks Since 1983, Ford's main amp has been a Dumble Overdrive Special, serial number 002, which Alexander Dumble made for him that year. Cobb says that Dumble used a new Greenback speaker and new tubes, underlining that it is not the single parts that make his amps sound great, but it is more of a cocktail, where the ability is in finding the right balance between the different components. I will now briefly talk about the three most famous models of Dumble amplifiers and their general peculiarities, but (once again) please bear in mind that, due to the individual nature of the builds, all of this could be different, and its probably not 100% accurate. Interestingly, he mentions that the amp builder wasnt looking for old or vintage components when building his amp. I just dont use it much anymore due to a change in taste. For the wet component he is. Jimi Hendrix is a unique stylist of the electric guitar, and is a huge influence on my rhythm playing., 2. My experience with it is that it is a finicky pedal to dial in. Demos Gladio SC - Official Demo Watch on Heres how it works. If it works out, I may have one built for me. Yesterday by The Beatles is a legendary song, The Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd is a legendary album, Jimi Hendrix is a legendary guitar player, a 1959 Gibson Les Paul is a legendary guitar, and the mythical pact between Robert Johnson and Mr. 666 himself is considered to be legendary as well. Posted May 1, 2014. It works perfectly when tested under load, gives a steady 12V DC. On the bottom right you see the flight case of Robben Ford's black 2x12" cabinet. My best advice if you are after the SRV tone would be to put the level all the way up, the tone up around half to 3/4, and the overdrive low probably less than 1/4. Anyway, in my opinion, the tonal relationship between Dumble and Fender is very noticeable, but there is one crucial difference: pretty much every Dumble amp has a very substantial boost in the low-end when compared to a Fender Blackface style amp, giving it more of a Hi-Fi quality, an essential detail noticed and subsequently praised by almost every lucky owner of one (or more) of these fantastic pieces of gear. I finally found my sound with the Dumble Overdrive and the Fender Robben Ford model., 7. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Never noticed the plexiglass shield before. Joe Bonamassa Forum Joe's Guitars, Amps and Gear Zendrive Settings, You must login or register to post a reply. The voice knob you can tweak to taste. Just kind of weird to use the Dumble as just the clean amp. It may not display this or other websites correctly. My Super Reverb is finicky like my wife going shoe shopping, have tried every OD under the sun including modded TS9s, Fulltone OCD, Boss Overdrive without much luck. Ive found that the TimeLine is the absolute best-sounding foot-pedal delay you can have, Ford says. I was in the 3rd row right in front of him and his amps. That is a big-time first for me. With the Strat into Vibroverb setup, I'm guessing you are a SRV fan, no? It was fine. Many of Fords fans would have been happy to see him continue playing distorted guitar over complex changes for the rest of his life. It is designed to get the overdriven sound of a Dumble Overdrive Guitar Amp. (Serial 001 is Dumble's personal amp.) He couldn't have been using a ZenDrive in the late 80s. MusicRadar is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. I found that master at 3.5 gave me a perfect balance of those sizzly overtones when letting a chord ring out. "It hasn't changed very much in quite some time," Ford says of . You can look on https://reverb.com/, where occasionally you might see something pop up. In fact, I might say it hasnt changed at all, other than the addition of the [Fulltone] Deja Vibe, which I started using maybe a year ago., A post shared by Robben Ford Official (@robbenfordmusic) (opens in new tab), A photo posted by on on Jul 29, 2020 at 6:36pm PDT. It has the crisp highs and slightly chewy and fuzzy lows and mids that I think of as the Dumble sound (think Robben Ford). He runs this Overdrive Special through a Dumble 2x12 cabinet that was actually made for his second Dumble head. Cons: Just to follow up here with my anti-climactic purchase -- I decided that I don't quite know enough about what jazz guitar I want. I hope this helps. Stereo reverb? The amp is a 1957 Tweed Deluxe reissue initially built by the Fender Custom Shop, but he says that Dumble completely gutted out the interiors of the amplifier to rebuild his circuit into it. Don't miss the latest deals, news, reviews, features and tutorials. Location: Toronto, Canada. Never could get anything to sound like that. In contrast, the American Sound, best illustrated by Fender amplifiers, has a very noticeable scoop in the mid-range, even when the mids are turned up to the maximum amount possible. HIGH-END DUMBLE PEDALS BETWEEN $229 and $310 These options offer some amazing tones and value as well as a great combination of features, components and design. Key to the Dumble sound is the way the clean preamp cascades into the overdrive section. Re: Robben Ford's new amp and speaker. I saw Robben Ford play at Yoshis in 2010 , he was using the ZD in front of his Dumble ODS.. 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