Using a 16 barrel, youd only be about 2.2 low at 200 with this zero. Good article. Is the barrel line in the pics blue or red or is it inconsistent? 300 Blackout is a cartridge that came on the market and found a unique home. But the Armys method is easy to use if meters are your game. . Nov 14, 2018 (Edited) My 9 year old son shoots a .300 blackout. I will be using the 50 yds MPBR. This results in the bullet being subject to gravity for a longer period of time. The Trijicon is an "adjust once" design with each click representing MOA. Posted: 8/27/2019 10:39:35 . Sure the tape measure might show you 1 inch but what you're actually using is 25.4mm. Guess what you can do in Imperial units? MacII, your writing reminds me of Patrick E. McManus, a writer for "Field & Stream" years ago. (the call it 'blank' because it's realized as the maximum 'ineffective' range aka the range where your target is blank from No hits from sighted in zeroes point of aim. For example, a 110 gr v-max traveling at 2300 fps will be approximately 1.2" low at 25 yards when sighted in at 100 and 23.7 inches low at 300. We offer pistol fundamental targets and zero targets for those running red dot optics on their pistols. Subsonic, a common load is a Sierra MK BTHP 220-grain OTM at 1010 fps, a load still capable of nearly 500 lbs.feet of KE. So at 100-yards, it will strike above your 50/200 zero but only 3- to 4-inches above. And in turn, the trajectory past 100 yards for this gun has been described as rainbow-like.. Its engrained in me. I thought this was great. At 36 yards, we're working with 0.36" per MOA. I do have to ponder whenever I hear folks argue about meter vs. yards. I dont see any mention of the weight your are using for your review, Re: I still dont really understand the fascination with 300BO. The above models are designed for AR-15s in 5.56 and .223 in standard barrel lengths. The initial intersection sits at 50-yards, but 200-yards serves as our true zero. Thanks for breaking this down. I'm trying to zero them at the range next weekend. We cover the most common battlesight zeroes and the easy-to-understand science behind them. Doesn't matter whether it's feet, inches, yards miles, whatever the unit is, it's metric. For hunting (i.e. The 6.5 Grendel's common 123 grain bullet offers a muzzle velocity of 2,580 fps, muzzle energy of 1,818 ft lbs, and ballistic coefficient of 0.506. It has an 8.5" Rainier barrel & I'm running a non-magnified Vortex Razor 3moa mini red dot. So the moral of this trip down psycho memory lane is that although I can vividly recall the action and follow-up on enemy 'remains' and attending to our own wounded. Do you have access to a 300-yard range? If a rifle is zeroed for 50 yards shoots a round with a muzzle velocity of 1050fps the 190gr bullet will exhibit a 6.7" drop at 100 yards. Thanks for posting this. Using the calculator it tells you that you should zero your rifle at 250 yards and that the MPBR is 300 yards. If you want to hunt with an MPBR, rethink these numbers based on the target size and the caliber youre using. A spotter with rangefinder helps, but I still don't deviate much from POA. guns & My sight over bore is about 2.7 with a T1 or low power variable in a ADM Recon mount. What about ranges closer than 50-yards and further than 200-yards? Did they just bump the price up? Not sure what the differences are, but thought it was worth noting. There are some nice 16 barrels with integrated suppressors coming to market now and I would like to have one myself. It can go below, or above it depending on the range of your target. Once the bullet begins its journey back towards the ground, it will eventually cross your line of sight again, and this is called Terminal Intersection. Not bashing the 300 AAC, which I think is a cool caliber, I just dont know if Ill be able to feed it given the massive political stupidity regarding the 2A. I still dont really understand the fascination with 300BO. The only stuff I can find is $1/round and I dont need it that badly! The last deer he got this last Saturday night was a big doe at 120 yards. For the future, can you shoot like a little girl? If a rifle is zeroed for 50 yards shoots a round with a muzzle velocity of 1050fps the 190gr bullet will exhibit a 6.7" drop at 100 yards. OLIGHT PL-2, PL2, PL II Valkyrie 1200 Lumen Rail Streamlight 69424 TLR-7A Flex 500-Lumen Streamlight 69260 TLR-1 HL 1000-Lumen Weapon Light Streamlight 69400 TLR-7 Sub 500-Lumen Pistol Light OLIGHT Javelot Tac M 1000 Lumens Tactical AR-15 Basics: Understanding the Anatomy and Operation of the Rifle, 6.5 Grendel vs 5.56 Basic Things To Know. Therefore, it would seem that 5.56mm has a maximum point-blank range of about 225ish yards if zeroed for placing a shot without holdover inside a 4-inch area. Heres why . Again, be sure to confirm your zero at 300 yards given the chance. For those that have attended the courses now know that when it comes to your go-to 5.56 caliber carbine rifle that you would pick because it is best suited for all possible scenarios, the 36 yard zero seems to be the perfect fit. You'll never be more than 2.5" off POA within 100 yards for subs. As a round travels, it does not stay entirely in line with your point of aim. Here's a chart that shows the BLK and the Grendel's trajectories, assuming a 100-yard zero: . So how do we get the 36 yard zero with only 25 yards to work with? Most bullets from both cartridges weigh around 125-Grains. All my defense shooting would be in an urban setting, so, no long shots that my 73 aged eyes could not see anyway. Not rifles. What about the ranges between 50-yards and 200, you ask? I have a 9 AAC. It doesnt matter. My grandfather was a large animal vet (small animals were not treated, they were disposed of and replaced) and he traded treatment of a "haywire " cow for a really old cavalry carbine, saddle ring and all, along with a couple of boxes of old, lead bullet cartridges. Now we can circle back around to Maximum Point Blank Range zero I addressed at the beginning of this whole mess. Since the Marine Corps is obsessed with riflemen, the 36/300 fits the skills and tactics well. Your 100 yard drop for a 300 Blackout will depend on your cartridge loading, bullet weight, and your zero range. Using an MPBR zero, you can also zero at shorter ranges. However, over that 100 yards the trajectory is remarkably consistent. That spring just wasn't designed for that much weight. gear. Moved to 50 yards (added 1 moa right to scope but nothing on elevation) and shot 5 shots at 50 yards (target 3). M/Sgt P.J. All that leads to why Battlesight Zeros are represented by two numbers. Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. Even when 300blk ammo was available it was expensive. Despite what you might have heard, the bullet doesnt magically drift upwards when it leaves the barrel. But before we dive in, lets cover some terms and ideas youll need to know in order to understand battlesight zeroes. That's because at 300 yards, aim will match point of impact. " The distance from a weapon system at which a 50 percent probability of target hit is expected, or the tracer burnout range." [copied from FM 101-5-1 Operational Terms and Graphics] of the AAC 300 Blackout is about 440m for a 9 barrel when using supersonic ammo. You won't find a cartridge that "does it all" better than the 300 Blackout. But it doesnt really offer the versatility of some others, and cant do everything, for example, like the .308 Winchester can. I believe those were 55gr. 1. Of course, this is a matter of opinion, but when it comes to making accurate shots from point blank distance all the way out to 300 yards you really cant argue that the 36 yard zero makes thinking about your hold overs and unders a breeze, which is especially the case when youre under extreme stress. A 50 yard zero allows the shooter to use a simple center-mass hold to ranges of point blank to 200-250 yards, depending on rifle . Increased optic height + X95's height over bore do stretch the overall POI about 2.5 - 4" apart compared to standard 1/3rd co-witness optic height. He is interested in helping folks protect themselves with firearms and shoot better at the range. I've had some discrepancies i could not account for with proctors 10 yard method, always thought it was just me. Sometimes our fingers type faster than our brain. (which the M.C. Thanks for bringing this up. whats the best all around variant? , my answer is the 6.8 SPC. Best of all, you can zero your rifle and optic to this 50/200-yard setting at 10-yards. NCOs and officers were issued M9s. I noticed that too. Im not saying that it cant be done. always said was Battle Sight Zero). And well trained snipers for reaching way out if tactical situations require it for advantage. and it seems to work. So which zero is for you? Then every shot is a hold on COM. If it has adjustable . December 15, 2019 1:52 pm Reply Kona Golden. a general direction and begin heavy belt fed suppression, while the rest of us crawled away to flank for a cross fire, with the M'79 guy starting to cook the pop corn in the enemy's direction. No I definitely dont think its ballisticlly better than ol 7.6239. I personally prefer .270 cal and so I lean towards the 6.8 SPC because of the better long range performance, but .300 Blackout does what its supposed to do really well. When you're satisfied that the rifle consistently "prints" bullets where you aim the crosshairs, your rifle is zeroed. All have dropped on their tracks but one and it ran 60 yards and piled up. I have a Ruger precession rimfire with a 3x9 scope and a 10/22 with a HS507C reflex optic. Any standard AR15 lower works with . I don't know the answer. Always minimal casualties on my team. Which means several other variables notwithstanding the 'battlefield zero' like cross wind vector, bullet and barrel accuracy, shooter skill under stress, etc. That 50/200 zero is an MPBR zero. Trijicon TA33-C 330 ACOG 300 AAC Blackout. I learned about height over bore the hard way in 29 Palms California, training for my first deployment. Even so, the .45-70 still had a very appreciable drop from the old carbine. I know it's fun, but It's probably better to just practice enough with your main 'go gun' so that you can hit your target out to 100 meters with 90% plus efficacy While you are practicing moving to cover or flanking. Roughly an inch low at 25 yards. With those numbers, it competes with the 45-70, but only external ballistics. But not as well as I could have understanding the arc. Most police are unlikely to find themselves in engagements beyond 200-yards. I love my 300 blackout. Im regularly singing steel at 250 with my 300 BLK rifle, with a nice +3.4 Mil hold. Conversely, a round fired with the same 50 yard zero with a muzzle velocity of 900fps the 190gr bullet will exhibit a 9.5 . Frank Proctor has a great video on that below. Federal Premium. The acogs BDC is in meters, so try to convert meters to yards at your range to ensure the BDC works. Leghorn needs to stop being paraded about as an expert on well, just about anything firearms related. You are talking about the 10 yard zero method where the correct zero for first intersection with LOS is 50 yards. All that said, Nick may very well have a point concerning a kill at 100 plus yards. 6.5 GRENDEL: 300 BLACKOUT : Bullet Velocity (Muzzle) 2,580 ft/s. The 50/200 is a defensive MPBR designed for a torso of a human being. The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately-.72 below your point of aim. Great targets. The cavity is capped and filled by a flat-nose polymer insert. We also provide adjusted range versions for those who only have access to a short range (25 yards), but want a 50/200 or 100 yard zero. Let us also consider another popular cartridge for a self-defense rifle, namely 7.62x39mm. with this same dope (just a tad high). I was a geodetic surveyor. That setting leaves me 2 high at 25 yds, 3high at 50 yds, back to 2 at . Ask Foghorn: Zero Distance for 300 AAC Blackout? So don't take your 'sighting' system so seriously. I missed several at first before my grandfather took me in hand and explained about trajectory and holdover. These factors clearly indicate the .300 Blackout's superior performance over a cartridge that was previously classed as "Gold Standard.". At 150, the round has dropped 6 and a half inches. While having a chunky projectile is a nice improvement over the standard 5.56 cartridge, it does mean that you lose some muzzle velocity. I will not have to make adjustments to compensate. 36 Yards. Anxious to find a MPBR and zero distance for the 6mm A.R.C. There its drop is more than 30 feet (with a 100-yard zero) and energy drops to 309 foot-pounds. To better understand MPBR, we need to talk about ballistics and how a round flies through the air. On the other hand, while the 25-yard zero is suitable for shooting at 25, 300 and 400 yards, it requires careful holdover compensation for accurate targeting at 150, 200, 250 and 450 yards. Most folks can find 36 yards to fire. 7.62x39 requires a much larger bolt face and this makes for a thin-walled bolt that can and will break easier. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. anything extra and your That said, it brings slightly less range than the USMCs MPBR zero. FMJs, but I just used that method with a new rifle build and 62gr. Well, sorry to bust balls, guys but not much of this matters in real time hot combat situations. More specifically, the specialized battlesight zeroes you can use with AR-15 style rifles. This provides a trajectory with a maximum ordinate during flight of just over 4.5" above the line of sight at around 200 yards. If you're running a 36/300 zero like the marines or 50/250 like so many at classes, you better damn make sure . Do I favor the 36 to 300-yard zero because I used to be a Marine? NASA used metric but the readouts for the Apollo mission pilots were displayed in imperial. As he aimed at his target with his ACOG, he couldnt see the softball-sized rock a few feet in front of him and shot it twice without even realizing it. If you zero at 50 yards, a 110 grain bullet may only drop a few inches while a 220 grain subsonic bullet will travel at half the speed and drop about 5x as much! They have 25, 50, and 100yds but no 36. Assuming no significant optic height over bore. Don't know what that is, neither did my recruiter. Not sure if anyone is still reading this thread, but Silver State Armory has 6.8 Nosler Accubond 110 grain in stock. Anywho the Armys zero is comparable to the USMC, offering similar range potential. That means that if you aim at the center of the vital zone of a deer at any . taught me to zero an M16A1 at 1000 inches (27.7 yds.) Unless one is using a range finder can you really tell the difference between 200 meters and 200 yards when estimating the distance with the eye? Your post answers some questions I've had about the 50/200 at 10 yard zero. I hunt feral hogs from 75 - 150yds., so the USMC method probably works the best for me. I understand there might be the occasional exception in Texas or Arizona these days. Shooting the rifle was an adventure. He currently teaches concealed carry courses and enjoys spending time in Floridas Nature Coast. Agreed, I just got mine before the craziness so it sits having only been fired once. my M14 in 66 and for my m16 in 68. Then he taught me how to judge range using apple trees in the orchard at various distances with old lard cans suspended on strings. 36/300 is my preferred. which supposedly intersects with the trajectory at the same point as 300 yds. And could have helped others. It's just holding the sport back. Barnes 110gr TAC-TX is awesome in 300 blackout. CENTURIATOR. Actually never failed tactically in over my 3 years of this type of day in and day out action. What if Im using a 150-grain .223 round made of Vibranium? Youll still be punching his clock. Even if you're running 110-grain, you've literally doubled what 55-grain is in a magazine of weight. It uses both unmodified AR-15 pattern mags and a standard 5.56/.223 bolt, meaning that Ill be able to change calibers in about 2 minutes, by just swapping barrels. It is a specialist cartridge, one designed to meet certain very specific needs and it does that well. . And at 300-yards, youll be hitting low as well. At closer ranges, from 100 to 250ish, youll hit high but still within 5-inches of your zero. Great article! . I did the same with my 300 blackout. So what if I told you there was a more efficient and effective way to zero your rifle. I still dont really understand the fascination with 300BO. Thats a pretty big target. He obliterated the rock because the ACOG sat 2.7 inches above his boreand he just couldnt see it. The faded yellow circle around the black circle is . It's just making the connection between shooting sports and physics education that much more difficult to draw, and that's a connection we should be strengthening. It provides a load comparable to a .30-30 or 7.6239 that functions perfectly in an AR-15. Out to 274 yards with a 200-yard zero At a mere 126 yards with a 300-yard zero the trajectory is out of our allowed radius. By comparison a .45 ACP with a 230gr bullet has 350-450 ft/lbs at the . The chief advantage of 300 Blackout is its versatility. Hornady .300 Blackout 190-Grain Sub-X. Its hilarious! In the brush, you need to be ready to shoot quickly, with no time to use a rangefinder and adjust scope DOPE or even to mentally calculate your reticle adjustment (holdover-under), as Tom's comments below confirm. Shot the 300 BO the other day as I am dedicating this rifle to subsonic only. My upper is from SOTA Arms. At 350-yards, you can still hit a man in the belly if you aim at his chest youll just see a 5-inch drop from your point of aim. I tried catching a bullet in a tub of water that was 24 long set at 50 yards. How do you find the 36 yards in those ranges that don't have markers? Ammunition was too expensive to waste on missed critters. The Trijicon 300 AAC Blackout optic, like most other ACOGs, is a fixed power magnification design. The table below will include drop data using a 50 yard zero, a 200 yard zero, and 100 yard zero for comparison. For a 10.5 inch barrel, the 50 or 36-yard zero will be ideal. Using 55 or 77 grain out of a 10.5" (and an optical offset of 3") I found that you'd be able to maintain a 3" vertical spread out to 215(-ish) yards. MPBR typically takes target size into account when planning. They allow you to zero at a specific range, often very short, but the zero holds up to hundreds of yards. Find it here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3aAzerSPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/kotaboy32Email: kotabo. towards your level. I may earn a small part of the sale from links to any products or services on this site. Imagine you have a target that is a 12-inch square. Compare that to a 5.56 Ball M193 round's 55 grain bullet, which delivers a . For the best result, please make sure the offset optic aligns with the bore when canted - It minimizes offset. Assuming youd like to be able to always hit within a 4 inch target, if you were to zero the 115 grain UMC loading @2200 FPS at 23 yards (25 is close enough) you get a range of 181 yards wherein the bullet neither rises or falls more than two inches below the point of aim. -Bill Wilson. Note:You MUST scale the image to 100% for accurate print results. (We also did offensive night ambushes and that's when the Claymores did the initial 'shock' 'aiming' for us. And thats why I like the 50 yard zero. You could get a little more distance out of a 25 yard zero (under 1.5 inch drop at 150 yards), but then the bullet moves through a little over 3 inches of variation over 100 yards compared to 1.5 inches with the 50 yard zero. For civilian/law enforcement/home defense use, that's a pretty tight vertical for a respectable range. But when you start moving past 100 yards, its time to break out the zippier calibers. No, technically metric. Zero would be 12/82 yds. Similarly, a 16" maintained a 3" vertical spread out to 235(-ish) yards. Thanks! The difference is about 18 yards (56 feet). If I could see ya I would hit you . THANK YOU for helping demystifying zeroing! Starting to think about a round for a subsonic build that could be effective for hunting mid sized game out to around 100 yards. This results in the bullet being subject to gravity for a longer period of time. It passed completely through with plenty of energy left over. Thanks for being there for us, sir. I figured somewhere there would be a 36 yard zero target for the 25 yard line but there was nothing. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. For example, if my round hits at vertical linemarked 16 above the 0 then I need to adjust my Eotech16 clicks down. Nick has probably done a comprehensive article on this very subject and I just missed it. At this point I think finding ammo for a 300 is more difficult than zeroing one. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I was using the wrong height above bore and taking the -1.9 for granted. HOLOSUN HS510C 2 MOA Dot Or A 65 MOA Ring Open Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red HOLOSUN HS507C X2 Circle Dot Solar Failsafe. Its simple as the round meets the line of sight at 36 rising then 300 as its falling. Keep up the great work! it isn't completely tested, but the numbers that I did happen to test were r. Want an optic to go with your new zero? It is an incredibly efficient cartridge and with the Barnes Tac-Tx an awesome killer. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. Learn the 3 most popular shooting stances & more. And Im not being snotty about that, I really want to know. It really depends on the person. Great article with very simple-to-understand explanations. The 50/200 zero is highly precise at 50- to 200-yards. It was called SFAB (Superior Firepower ASS Blasting). I use.77 grainfor a truer flight, more accuracy, and more knockdown power. Maximum 2000 meters; Minimum 0. Man, you guys ask all the right questions. The bullet is still rising to meet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. Great job! It also had a trajectory about like a mortar. Simply put, MPBR is the max range you can aim at a specific sized target and still hit it without making adjustments for holdover. Yeah, the variation is not more than 2 inches in either direction. NASA uses the SI units system, which is in most cases METRIC, so TECHNICALLY it was the metric system that got us to the moon. Should I go to an outdoor range to get a nice zero or would 25y do? Well, since I had my question posted, guess it was time for me register finally. The USMC zero is best for extended-range shooting. However, at 300 yards, the bullet drops nearly 5 inches below the point of aim. Many LE officers I've worked with employ 50 or 100 yard zeros but rarely have to engage beyond 25. Im getting coyotes and stray cats and dogs roaming my property. Most of our shooters are also using basic 5.56/.223 55 grain FMJ for their range ammo, which is also what they zero their rifle with. I'm pretty sure the Army's zero is longer range than the Marine Corps' as stated. We already have an account registered for email address So long as your target isn't much over 100 yards, that is. Enemy destroyed or just hit and run. You can plug your data and come up with your own MPRB and zeroing scheme. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. . . . We regularly update older articles to ensure we're bringing the most up-to-date info to our readers. In the picture, the sights are approximately 2.7-inches or so above the actual barrel. For example, with a red dot height above bore of the standard 2.6 inches for an AR, with Federal XM193 factory load boat tail 5.56 at 10 yards the POI is - 2.0 (not - 1.9) inches below POA with a first intersection at 50 yards of 0.0 inches deviation (which is the first zero intersection with LOS) and the second intersection with LOS at 231 yards (and not 200 yards) at 0.0 inches deviation for zero. This time with more of an 'advantage'. Can we possibly make it through one gun review without someone whining about ammo? Gravity is a constant companion. Thanks! Additionally, that incline maximizes the range of your weapon. Close range works perfect for pigs, hold low for 100 on white tail, and back dead on at 200. Lets see, the 7.6239 has been an awfully effective man-killer for over 60 years and the 30-30killed more deer than any cartridge ever. . Dont get crazy with caliber and barrel length, and expect the same results. The 300-Blackout is a lower-power 30-caliber cartridge. I love your writing style bro. The 11.5 MOA version has a usable Second Zero range from about 480 to 540 . The terminal ballistics have got to suck. So far he is 4/4 on deer with it. I started zeroing my 22s at 70 yards. 300 Blackout rounds are heavier. Reloading 300 Blackout: Ruger American Ranch Rifle 300; I Am Coming Out: 308 Subsonic AR10 vs AR15 300 Blackout 200gr Hornady ELD-X . This happened twice and i didnt find the bullet as i neglected to bring my boxes of newspaper for the backstop. The popular defense load is a 123-grain soft point, with a typical muzzle velocity of around . Hes a lifelong shooter who just happened to be mediocre enough with a gun and a keyboard to combine the two and write. So actually measure your sight height above bore and make sure because a lot of people with standard height above bore of 2.6 inches are taking for granted the -1.9 inch 10 yard zero method and getting deviations they try to reconcile at 50 and 200 yards when their actual second intersection is beyond that and they are actually probably zeroed but don't realize it because they take the 2.5 inches and 50/200 yard as gospel. Typically, 50-yards, 36-yards, or 25-meters are accessible. I cant wait to get a .300BLK barrel for my XCR. This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. You are aiming slightly upwards. Conversely, a round fired with the same 50 yard zero with a muzzle velocity of 900fps the 190gr bullet will exhibit a 9.5 . If you can aim at the middle of the square and the bullets trajectory doesnt exceed 6-inches up or down up from 25- to 300-yards your MPBR would be 300-yards. Heres the thingyour point of aim and point of impact can meet at two different ranges. The distance between the optic and barrel do affect the shot group. 300 AAC/Blackout arose in the 2000s during GWOT out of military requirements for an individual weapon which would hit harder than the standard-issue M-4 carbine in 5.5645 NATO, but without a substantial increase in weight, or the need to issue an entirely new weapon system. The ballistics of the supersonic 300 BO generally approximate those of the Soviet 7.6239, and especially the old Mauser 7.9233 Kurz, bullet weight and style being alike. While boutique cartridges can come and go 300 Blackout has had staying power. Just a funny observation . After measuring the red dot height above bore like u said and accounting for this i was able to use the 10 yard method and the discrepancies went away at 50. Boom flop. Good questions. I love my $0.26/rd 220gr subsonic 300blk loads. They take us to a tiny range to zero. Take a look at the Best AR-15 Scopes & Optics! This is important to know because bullets dont fly perfectly straight from the end of your barrel. With a scope height of 1.5 inches, the parabolic arc of the round peaks at 50 yards and returns once more to -1.5 inches at 100 yards. So I thank you. You should fall back to either regroup out of danger, or to re-established another undisclosed fire advantage before you engage, or to just disengage all together and live to fight another day. The trajectory is a little rainbow like and the 7.6239 and 30-30 are pretty good comparisons. The hold under for that round is-.70, and if your sight sits only 1.5 above bore then you are at a -.41 with 55 grain and -.40 with 77 grain. 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