To make the striker leg pull off of the sear, you would have to impart a lot of rearward momentum and stop it suddenly. Bagnell said he thinks the discharges are due to both design and manufacturing flaws on SIGs part. That is totally unacceptable. The fact the ammo didn't bother other guns is irrelevant, since every round is, essentially, unique. It might only take a little bridging in the powder drop so that a cartridge gets an extra .2gr. Contacted late Friday, a spokeswoman for special forces said the investigation is still ongoing and would not confirm the companys findings. Note also that ABC didnt provide any context for the number of suits filed against SIG. A plastic gun that has a tendency to go off by itself. I would trust a hungry lion on the Serengeti plains of Africa more than I would a C.E.O. I dont own a Glock or a SIG and am not a fanboy of either. yes. There are several stories about her in the news for various no reasons, she must be throwing them out by a dozen. They suck and Im awesome!, 2. The best take on this subject is by the author himself: this is about slime lawyers looking to build a national narrative and get a few wins in, so they can more easily get the next win and the next one, the next one and so on. If not sorry and GL! Tyler Freel Nuts and Bolts of the Sig-Sauer P320 XTen. Going on Sigs reputation I bought a P320. I discovered a small crack in the chamber of an older model 226 several years ago, and the best they would do was offer a discount on a new barrel because I shot reloads. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Too expensive to use their customers as beta testers. I have been purchasing and using Sig firearms exclusively for over 40 years. The fact is that the plaintiffs will get paid regardless of who did what. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. I can say we are aware of the statement released by SIG SAUER, said Maj. Amber Bineau. The second, longer version of the ABC story again included comments from Joshua Harrison, the consultant ABC hired to independently assess the P320. It is not the first time I have heard someone say they sent the pistol back to SIG for extraction issues, and it came back with a visibly different extractor. There are 18 other similar incidents claimed in the lawsuit. With the redesign, you would have to implement a LOT of force to move the trigger backwards. People of the Gun are probably familiar with the early problems the P320 had regarding drop safety. If the latter were to occur, the drop safety would prevent discharge because it would not be pushed up by anything. He takes your wallet and car and leaves the SIG. So I give a ton of credit to Shatner for reading the reality of what it was and in essence, saving it. Theyve gotten tons of contracts because the gun is cheap, cheap, cheap to make. Sig Sauer P320 Extractor Spring . It was possibly a gun that had been ordered and returned, but could not be sold as new at that point. Update: 6/30/16 Ordered a new Caliber X-change kit 9F about 4 weeks ago and have been using the new kit for the last 4 matches. The incidents occur outside the forbidden zone, as we disarm before we enter so we stay in assiduous compliance with their nonsensical requirement. For instance theres Lieutenant Thomas Ahern who was was performing a routine function (test) of his P320 when it fired at him without any force towards the trigger, resulting in the bullet impacting his left thigh.. Whats this silly BS? and youve gotten this far reading our thread. Add to Cart. The American manufacturer of the new pistols belonging to Canadas special forces claims the soldier wounded in an accidental discharge last fall was using the wrong holster for the weapon. Welcome aboard. In that case lighten the recoil spring or bumping up the power should make a difference. Anyway around here they do. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. That is the point of most of the video at the end of the article. Will this issue get better or should I be contacting Sig? Vihtavuori doesn't publish data for even N320 with a 147gr plated bullet, much less N310, so not only is this N310, it's with an even heavier 165gr bullet. Then 4 to 6 week wait for repair. Once SIG SAUER receives your P320 pistol, they will apply the upgrades, test it, and then return it to you free of charge. Sig sculpted the rear of the frame shell to allow your hand a more comfortable, and higher, carry, with an extended beavertail. So park the Cops suck cause they aint gunfighters! bull**it. But when you're running at the raggedy edge, when you're running well into or over +P -- as many people do with super fast powders and super heavy bullets, trying to chase down the holy grail of soft felt recoil -- when you're at that raggedy edge, it doesn't take a double-charge for a catastrophic failure. I sold that pistol when I got it back. Someone is going to read this thread and be bewildered. https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-iN4Wr8P_P2lGU6m2M5Rd8F6tVxyeeWdzleA_0eUoKjB0wER5wbVU_ouLj3uKCvLmUWhjIv2uHVC2R0Wv8Q9VgQ/messages/@.id==AMxkWSMoHX4bYSzMKA0AINojDH4/content/parts/@.id==2/refresh?appid=YMailNorrinLaunch&ymreqid=ae6c4f7d-acdd-ffa3-1c80-d70000011c00. Anyway my question for $600 would be: Did you have your 3rd wife killed? If you can make the trigger move backwards, all bets are off. Over the top, hammy and with incredible choleric energy, but as he once said, when you trying to seriously sell a scene that has space ship with obvious carboard walls, christmas lights and a guy in a rubber gorilla suit with a plastic horn on its head, if you play it lowkey youre dead the audience is gonna focus on how cheesy it all is. OR some gorilla with more brawn than brains ignored the 40lb trigger pull they suddenly had to break the tab. Thats like telling the cop you were only going 5 over, not 10. That is exactly why all civilized countries have Government Agencies that monitor companies that have a callus disregard for human life and are only interested in the quick buck. The use of a modified [SIG] P226 holster created an unsafe condition by allowing a foreign object to enter the holster, causing the unintended discharge.. Give me a break. Sound familiar? Sig Sauer P320 45 AUTO EXTRACTOR ASSEMBLY - CORROSION RESISTANT. I don't think this has a bearing in this case because I tried Federal factory premium loads and Winchester factory loads as well as my hand loads. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial users. Back in 2017, SIG instituted a voluntary upgrade program to replace the original production triggers with new enhanced triggers designed to fix the issue that we and others observed when the pistols were dropped onto hard surfaces. It doesnt matter whether SIG is at fault or not. That being the case, the 320 is a cocked and locked striker-fired gun; However, it only has two safeties, unlike, say, a 1911, which has four: An inertial firing pin, a positive firing-pin locking safety, a manual sear-locking/blocking safety, and a trigger-bar-blocking grip safety. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. I still own them all. Instead we see a Sig that is ran by Mr. Cohen of Kimber fame have repeated quality and product development failures. This is why we now have back up safeties on garden tractors and riding lawn mowers. (chamber area) and checked for spent shell retention. He had to be reprimanded by the range officer twice for unsafe handling of his pistol. ! only reveals ones immature emotional attachment to an inanimate object, which reveals a pretty childish worldview. SATIN GOLD | Matte TiN. I chalk it up to a piece of brass that was probably already significantly compromised. The enclosed paper work says they replaced the extractor spring and plunger as well as polish the rear of the slide. It may be a rotten trigger, but it does highlight the fact it has a much lighter trigger compared to classic semi-autos and revolvers. Ive seen similar situations at our Municipal range. It was the same sort of progressively worsening extraction issues you describe. A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. Dont quote the four rules of safety in your article when all the hotness in the gun world is appendix carry pointing something at an extremity and the photos you use showing front slide serrationsputting your hands fingers near the business end of the barrel, because press checks from the front is the way all the cool operator guys do it. If it was so bad, why did the US Marines, who had the Glock, drop it in favor of the carry sized P320, the M18? Still waiting. They didnt have to, but did. If the Ejector is determined to be worn or broken, Sig Sauer recommends it be repaired by: a. Hello perpetrators, Lee Paige is clearly the gift that keeps on giving though our buddy Hunter Biden is a close second! saw the video, doesnt explain how it bypasses striker pin safety. I removed the extractor assembly and cleaned it thoroughly. Theyre cheering for a noose around their own precious Glocks throat. You should always use a real holster, or carry it condition 3 or 4 if its off-body. This leads me to conclude that the problem is not the gear but the moron using it. She didnt sue, but swore she would never own another Volvo again. You did get to sit and watch it with him, which leads to a serious question. One, the energy necessary to lift the striker-securing safety plunger may be insufficient due to a too-weak spring, or a too-light plunger, or some other design flaw, to reliably engage the plunger where it belongs. Last year, Sig Sauer settled a class-action lawsuit that alleged design defects in the P320. Some have suggested that this could have been aggravated by the lack of a trigger safety, as most other. Feel free to contact me if you have any problems. All with VV310. The trigger bar has to push up on it, for it to release. This is actually another new Sig p320 RX, besides the 2 sig blow outs last match[emoji13]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Still, it's incumbent on us to follow up our reviews with some of the reported problems and legal actions affecting the P320. Right. And it doesnt take too much Googling to find plenty of reports of LEOs suing the Georgia company as well (see here, here, here, and here for just a few). Heres the version that ran Tuesday morning during the networks Good Morning America program . You would have to conclude theres a problem with the product, not with the people., In the Nightline version, Bagnell says, Firearms are not subject to federal regulation. I know I'm reviving an old thread here as well. Changing the extractor & extractor spring (recommended fix) seems to have solved the problem. The U.S. manufacturer went a step further in its statement Friday, stating without evidence or attribution, that the timing of the article was intended to undercut its chances in the federal governments upcoming bid to replace all of the handguns in both the military and RCMP. Thats the American system at work in all its corrupt majesty. If the military was going to go cheap then they should have thrown Taurus into the mix. The Military versions of the P320 are designated the M17 and the M18. This part is a high-quality replacement internal extractor for specific versions of the P220 and most X5 models. It was at that point that I knew the gun had a design flaw. I have fired many different brands of ammo.. These cops seem pretty dang stupid if they put loaded guns in gym bags and purses with other stuff and carry them around, especially a gun that lacks manual safeties. Shot about 200 rounds of a variety of ammo (factory and reloads) no problems noted at all. From some old posts I read that Sig did an upgrade to these extractor . If the ammo is close enough to spec to operate in other firearms without issue, but the 320 has chambering issues causing setback and over pressure. ! while being accompanied by some form of obvious stupidity like putting an unholstered gun in a gym bag with other stuff. Glocks biggest problem is they havent innovated since 1985. Quite frankly, a sizable number of the LEOs that go there, would benefit from a Gun Safety 101 class. This highly trained Fibbie was doing flips while dancing (breakdancing? The pistol is popular with commercial gun owners and law enforcement south of the border. Sig Sauer has addressed the main issue with the P320 by redesigning the gun's trigger mechanism. In 2017, a prominent online gun shop pulled the P320 from its shelves, citing its concern that the weapon could fire if dropped from the wrong angle. Today on Tactical Fellowship! In 1982 the G17 hit the market and in 1983 they gave 30,000 pistols to the Austrian military at cost. Where is this lightning striking twice? Its pathetic how often these legal stunts work. Two, the plunger may have a propensity to remain partially raised, or staged, instead of returning fully to its secure position, lessening the energy necessary to move it and thus allowing less effort to do so. They've also been adopted as duty guns by law enforcement agencies across the country. The Sig Sauer P320 Extractor is a Factory OEM Sig Sauer part. Not much detail is provided in any of those other claimed incidents, but a few stand out. Make sure the parts are installed correctly. I'm relatively convinced that it's fixed. The company also recently successfully blocked a proposed class action lawsuit that centered on financial harm for P320 owners. Note that Harrisons comment about these claims possibly being the result of legal momentum were edited out of the longer Nightline version of the report. I've lost a little faith in my EDC. Still no issues except an occasional FTF as I play with ammo loads and seating depths. Im not even sure I would do that with my 92 or something else that can be both decocked and locked. RKC, the first time someone presented me with a 1911 whose trigger rivaled my Pythons single action, I started wondering about that. Likewise, having a finger in the trigger-guard, or a clothing draw-string, or a retention strap, or some other object, when holstering the gun exonerates the maker, as the gun is firing with a trigger press of sufficient energy and stroke as designed. Bagnell also represented Virginia Sheriffs Deputy Marcie Vadnais who sued SIG when she said her P320 went off on its own when she was removing the weapon from her belt. Vadnais was featured in the Nightline version of ABCs report. First I have no problem with the Mk 25 or any other Sig thats metal. SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. More common is the incorrect reassembly, for those who have removed the plunger, spring or claw. If you cant get it working , call SIG and send it back. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Thanks to all for the advice. Like others said I never had a problem before this. People who had problems have been replacing them with Lightning Strike SS ones. Feed ramp was polished from use when it went out but looked freshly blued when it came back. Took it home, cleaned it, and went straight back to the range. Thats SIGs term for a recall. I agree that Glock is sitting on their laurels and has been for decades. As they should. To give you an example of early self-propelled lawn mowers if you lost your grip on the handles the mower would not shut off and it would take off on its own right down the street all by itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA, Simply put, the P320 is not safe and the lawsuits arent frivolous. Their visceral hatred for that which they see as competition to their little golden calf god and their blind, myopic, childish self-identification with an external dynamic is hilarious! Good thing you werent serious, thatd be terr..uh.oops. I dunno if its a case of lowest bidders blues or what. Even if it was an issue with the sear interface, there is still a firing pin safety that will not move unless the trigger is held firmly to the rear. Yes. This is just blind greed using some careless doofus to sell a lie and cash in because a civil jury, like the average American voter, can be manipulated easily though emotion, tears and stories of anguish, pain and suffering at the foot of some super-rich evil corporations cold-blooded behest. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. You may have a P220, .38 Super with a carbon steel slide. The company has repeatedly denied the P320 is unsafe. The tendency is for people to say "I've shot thousands of this load, and nothing has ever happened before." 3 disaster is true and if it is Sig will go all out to cover it up if it was. But when you set a gun down on a table, and the damn thing goes off seconds after you let go, that sounds like a defective gun. Yes, but that did not mean the machine would be able to go on being marketed like that. BTW it was HK that made the first polymer gun, Glock actually stole the idea for the G17 from them. Im more of a DS9 guy. Trust a P365 with your life. ABC ran their story on the P320 twice, but with some significant differences between the two reports. The problem affecting the original P320 is what the gun industry calls an "unintended discharge," or as one lawsuit against Sig Sauer explains: "The weapon fires without a trigger pull.". It did not originally have this. One of the officers a few years ago was carrying his P320 in a P226 holster that he took a Dremel to make the P320 fit. The weapon was out of battery when it fired.. I continue to bet my life on them. No autographs, No self taken pictures. Too much MIM in that crap SIG, the old ones were great. May 25, 2016 in Sig. I expect a handgun to run anything I put in it, within reason; I do not believe expecting the gun to run with steel case to be unreasonable. Sorry for the long post but I just needed to vent my tale of woe. Firing Pin Retaining Pin, Spiral -250. . The most common problems with the SIG P320 AXG Scorpion are FTF issues, ejection and extractor problems, slide rattle issues and RSA issues. JAFO- Yes, tried both FCUs with this kit. I had another thought last night. There goes 1/3 of the shooting season. The networks report didnt mention lawsuits filed by LEOs (or anyone else) against other gun makers claiming similar alleged design defects. Great job, this threat needed some levity! Asked if the guns in these cases could have been mishandled, Villani responds, When I see videos of police officers getting out of their car and their weapon discharges in their holsters, nah, theres a problem with the gun. ABC then ran bodycam footage of a pre-upgrade P320 firing as a Michigan state trooper exited his patrol car in 2016 with no mention of the results of any subsequent investigation. Other then that this gun has function without any stoppages. Hammer guns have a half cock notch for a reason. Capitol Police Officers Explanation for Shooting and Killing Ashli Babbitt Is Riddled With Problems, The City of Wichita Raked In Almost $200,000 Selling Seized Guns in the Last Five Years, Fifth Circuit Finalizes Ruling In Favor of Plaintiff in Cargill v. Garland, Legalizes Bump Stocks in Three States, Patriot Picket Lets Marylanders Know What to Expect From the Legislatures Bruen Response Bill, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ZZ6pynGLM, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dea-agent-lee-paige-still-wont-go-away/, https://sofrep.com/news/dod-evaluation-says-armys-new-sig-sauer-p320-service-pistol-riddled-issues/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsu6WsSQ2_g, https://millsentertainment.smugmug.com/William-Shatner-The-Wrath-of-Khan. That could happen easily. I am also very much a DS9 fan, best series overall. But when you're running at the raggedy edge, when you're running well into or over +P -- as many people do with super fast powders and super heavy bullets, trying to chase down the holy grail of soft felt recoil -- when you're at that raggedy edge, it doesn't take a double-charge for a catastrophic failure. Please Wait. You need to deliberately thumb the Pythons hammer back to get that trigger pull, each and every time. Unless they have to fire their weapon in an on-duty incident most officers only fire their weapons just before and/or at qualifications, which depending on the department are annual or semi-annual. MGW carries a vast array of replacement slides, barrels, magazines, sights, grip modules, pins, springs and other small parts for this handgun. I have read on forums where the factory swapped the extractor and made another change to add more tension on it. My bet would be that someone had a fully loaded gun in a gym bag and a cloth or rag snagged the trigger. In this version, Bridge City Officer Brittany Hilton tells her story of what she says happened when her P320 discharged as she was carrying it in her purse in what appears to be a SERPA holster (which has had its own problems, but thats another story). Sigs suck and my Glock is awesome!. Powered by Invision Community. Seems kind of like a Sig apologist article. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Glocks have gone off when people attempted to holster them and after they have holstered them, some times way later after holstering them like the fellow that got into his pickup truck. Limp wristing? NO, SIG has a problem that they would rather fight in court. I would rather play handball with the Devil himself because if you deal with the Devil he will tell you that you agreed to lose your soul for a big box full of millions in cash. Every weekend guns blow up running high pressure calibers like 9mm Luger loaded with super fast powders that are meant for low pressure cartridges like .45. After some research, it appears the P320 Compact 9mm (and only the P320 Compact 9mm) has a known problem w/all weights of Blazer Brass. ( could just be standard answer for the question. I was having issues with my P320, failure to extract that started off as a single incident in a month, then increasing in frequency after. Sent the old kit (as a complete pistol) off to Sig for warranty repair. Upload or insert images from URL. There are tens of millions of gun owners, far more than there are cops, and the VAST majority of those folks buy their guns and drop them a nightstand drawer or up on a closet shelf and leave it until theyre needed. Have you tried a different slide and barrel. Read the entire article to find out! Maybe. P320C .45. No problems there. Both were sent back to Sig and fixed. Had a buddy, years ago, that was a deputy for Orange County in California. UPDATE: 7-6-16 So, received my P320 9F back from Sig Sauer. Trying to categorically say Brand X is better than Brand Y! I dont know nothing about Sigs, I do know any gunm that goes off when I lay it on a table gets sold with a warning and I never touch that brand or model again. Your link has been automatically embedded. I too think its ammo related. In 2021 you would think a company would understand MIM metallurgy. If there were a defect in 320's, it would be all over the web. While good firearms training and practices among law enforcement officers is certainly the case much of the time, weve seen far too many instances over the years of un-safe or downright dangerous practices by allegedly highly trained individuals to apply that kind of blanket endorsement to all cops or alphabet agency employees. Just ordered all new parts from Top Gun Supply. SIG is choosing to litigate their problems away. So even if, as the ambulance chaser claims, the striker leg could vibrate off of the sear face, it could not discharge unless the drop safety was also disengaged because the drop safety prevents movement of the striker sufficient to make the firing pin protrude from the breech face. I dont consider the drop-bang issue a failure and Sigs response was actually above any real need, except to perhaps deflect any easy wins for slime ambulance chasers I get that. The gun has been running flawlessly with mixed brass with 165gn plated, 158gn 38/.357, and 147 factory since. (unless theyre SWAT or something). Still thinking. And have the dropping 320 go off? Slide has cycled all of the way back and attempts to strip the next round from the magazine. Took the wife out to SC yesterday after changing out to the 1911 guide rod with a 12lb spring. 3) If the sear fails, there is the drop safety in the way of the striker. Availability: In Stock Price $39.99 Qty Add to Cart Save Compare Details Reviews Details All the factory replacement corrosion-resistant parts to replace your P320 extractor assembly. N310 with 165gr? Folks disagree on brands. Send it back to Sig? Yes, its reliable, but no more so than most other major brands well known models. Having it as the ONLY trigger pull the weapon has seems (to me) clearly dangerous. Bagnell is representing a number of the police officers who have filed suits against SIG for un-commanded discharges, but wouldnt disclose the exact number. But it also has much worse quality control on the parts in my experience owning and working on both. (It wasnt my gun). With the 320, the striker is in full-cock position, and held there through the operation of the trigger sear and the positive striker-blocking safety. A few weeks ago, my P320Compact (serial number 58B00xxxx) failed to extract a shell. With Biden spending outrageous amounts of money, whats 100 million here or there? The claim basically boils down to the notion that in normal, unconcerning operation, a foreign body entered the striker body. Second, pardon us if were more than a little skeptical that the P320 in question or any other handgun fired when it was out of battery. Yea, I already have the RA and the Fedex shipping label. Well the Lonewolf stainless steel extractor came into today for my P320. Attorney Bagnell held up the law enforcement officers he represents as examples of people who are highly trained in carrying and using firearms. Upgrades are for things that didnt work right in the first place. Repeat Failure To Eject malfunctions with a Sig P320 .40 destroy my end of year competition scores:/ Life's too short to be working a gun that's working against. Whether or not the suits have merit. (The defect couldnt be duplicated after the crash.). Is it? Double check that the mag is fully seated and there is a round in the chamber. Sig Sauer has settled at least one federal class action lawsuit involving the P320, involving pistols made before 2017, offering refunds or replacement guns to purchasers. An x-ray (fluoroscope) of the mechanism in operation could show what, if anything, is happening inside the gun that might prove, or disprove, the contention that the gun is flawed. As for the Serpa holster, this is a bunch of internet echo chamber BS that originated with Obama-era federal agencies putting a bad light on a good product in order to sway public opinion and thus damage the manufacturers bottom line. 3. Fair enough. I dont own a P320. My trust for Sig stopped after they produced the beloved Sig556xi Russian. Possibly. It was 'm reviving an old thread here as well as polish the rear the. And has been running flawlessly with mixed brass with 165gn plated, 158gn 38/.357, and factory... 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